Normally, we wait until the end of a project to summarize "do it yourself" stuff, but recently we've been getting good advice from readers and there's no sense in waiting until after the fact to get more ideas.
The Challenge
We've finally gotten to the insulation phase (horray! < This is a combination of "horrors!" and "hurray!") for the second floor. I've insulated the walls over several weekends and have now started to insulate the attic and ceilings.
The challenge around insulating the attic is twofold: first, the higher ceiling in the master bedroom leaves relatively less room for insulation. Second, the main attic space criss-crossed by the air conditioning ductwork from our Unico air conditioning system.
Our Approach
First, we researched the recommended insulation levels for our climate. This information is widely available, including at the point of sale in stores where you can purchase insulation. The government's EnergyStar website has a simple summary here. They recommend that a Chicago home have between R-38 and R-49 for ceiling and attic spaces. (The R-value rates how well a material insulates. A higher rating indicates more insulation.)
Selecting Materials
There are a myriad of insulating materials to choose from, with many newer 'hi-tech' varieties cropping up in recent years. One way to categorize the types of insulation is by the methods of installation: rolled material insulation (primarily fiberglass) is the most common; 'blown-in' insulation is very popular for existing homes because it is so flexible; 'sprayed on' varieties of insulation are frequently used in new construction and commercial applications; and rigid foam materials are good for getting higher R-values into tight spaces.
We chose to use a combination of rolled fiberglass and rigid foam. The rolled fiberglass represents the majority of the insulation we are using, with the rigid foam solving a specific problem at the peak of our cathedral ceiling in the bedroom. We wanted something that we felt confident in installing ourselves, that would fit the space, would create the cost savings we were comfortable with, and which was affordable.
When would you choose one over the other? The following factors are considered when choosing insulation:
-Space available for installing insulation
-Cost (cost of insulation/installation vs. savings gained over time from insulation).
-Specific characteristics of the space being insulated (ventilation, above ground, below ground, wall, ceiling, exterior, interior, etc.)
-Ease of installation for your specific application
-Personal preference for specific material-types
The Department of Energy has a helpful primer regarding insulation types and decisions. There are MANY different opinions regarding insulation AND ventilation, with no consensus among home professionals as to the BEST type and technique. So, learn as much as you can in order to make an informed decision for your specific situation.
Installation
First, I tackled the higher ceiling. There is a partial vault in the front bedroom dormer, with a 2 foot high, 3 foot wide space at the peak that accomodates the AC ducts. (Actually, we prefer that look to a fully vaulted peak anyway.) For a majority of this ceiling we used rolled batts between the rafters. That space only allowed for using R-30 while preserving the ventilation we needed, a bit below the government recommendation. At the peak we're using foam board because space is so tight we couldn't get much more than R-20 with fiberglass. Stacking foam board with an R-value of 10 should allow us to exceed R-38. I haven't gotten to install this yet but I hope to soon.
The ceiling above the second bedroom and the bath is lower, so there is plenty of space in the unfinished attic for meeting the recommendations using fiberglass. However, installation is tricky because the AC air handler and the main trunk line circle through the entire space. I decided to tackle the space as three layers:
I'm not finished with this yet, but here's an in-progress photo showing the first two layers amidst the AC ducts.
The attic ultimately achieves close to R-49, although I know some of this benefit is cancelled out by the lower value of the insulation above the front bedroom. We can help to influence this by closing the door to that bedroom when the air-conditioning is not in use--the main attic then serves as the highest point of the house, adjoined to the first floor by the stairwell.
Special Considerations
There are a few additional unique things we're planning that are worth pointing out:
So, there you have it. Given that we're not done yet, suggestions are welcome. We expect to finish up insulating in the next two weekends (except for the bathroom, which we've delayed pending some of the other work we are doing there).
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Comments
wow! You guys sure are disciplined - I am currently avoiding painting the bathroom (in oreparation to a visit by the in-laws) by doing "research" reading your blog! Anyhow, I am in a "Green Building" class and I was wondering if you have considered using any of the renewable alternatives for any of your projects, like for insulation or even low VOC paints. I am sure you are well versed on all of theses things, but incase you aren't and want some info, I would be happy to email you some links! I think most of this stuff is newer/older technology - discovering people knew what they were doing back in the old days - like how porches were not just for aesthetics, they promoted community, block the wind in winter and shade the house in summer. Cool, huh?
Good luck and keep up the good work!
Posted by: dena | November 14, 2004 4:39 PM
Sounds great!
Two things you may want to consider though...
1) You say that you have Kraft-faced insulation as the outer 1/4 of the total insulation layer. One thing you should confirm with a Building Envelope Engineer is whether this is going to cause condensation (and therefore rot) within your wall. Vapour barriers must *always* be kept above the dew point. If it's 70 degrees inside your house, and 10 degrees outside, that Kraft paper is going to be at approx 25 degrees -- well below the dew point of a typical winter day. Therefore condensation and rot. Check it before you seal up the wall -- you may save your studs by peeling off the kraft paper.
2) Make sure that your knee walls extend *below* the flooring and seal against the first-story ceiling. Otherwise, cold air (in winter) and super-heated air (in summer) will be free to circulate against the underside of your second-story flooring.
In our house, by sealing these joist cavities immediately below the knee walls (with foamed-in rectangles of plywood), I have made a huge difference in the comfort of our second-story. And this is without adding any insulation.
Before I sealed these cavities, here is what we had on a June day at high-noon:
- outdoor air temperature: 70 degrees
- ground floor temp: 72 degrees
- side-attic temperature: 130 degrees
- second-story temp: 92 degrees
2 weeks later (after sealing the joist cavities with plywood and foam spray):
- outdoor air temp: 70 (same as above)
- ground floor temp: 72 (same)
- side-attic temp: 130 (same)
- second-story temp: 75 (a 17 degree drop!)
Now that we're into the cold season, our second-story floor is no longer cold in the morning.
Wish I'd done this 2 years ago when we first moved in!
If it hasn't already been done, do it now *before* you seal up those walls!
Hope this helps,
.../j
Posted by: jch | November 14, 2004 7:55 PM
Thanks, jch, for the advice. One point of clarification, though...our kraft-facing is on the inner surface, not the outer.
Posted by: Aaron | November 14, 2004 8:07 PM
Oh, I thought that the Kraft-faced insulation was subsequently covered by two more layers of insulation (putting the kraft layer in the *midst* of the overall insulation). No?
And I forgot to mention that my "seal the joist cavities" advice only applies to houses with Side Attics (1-1/2 story houses).
.../j
Posted by: jch | November 15, 2004 12:04 PM